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Re: Social Security Often Doesn’t Understand Pain (And What You Can Do About It)

Sam — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 20:03:20 -0000

I have many health problems. Arthritis in knees and back pain. Blood disorder - hemochromatosis. I've been to a hearing. But the judge wants me to see a Dr. Is this good or bad. Can someone tell me?

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leo girl — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:19:54 -0000

Yes i had a lawyer .No it was denid by a judge

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leo girl — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:12:13 -0000

Arizona

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leo girl — Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:11:51 -0000

I. Have Real Bad Back Pain that goes down both hips down my legs into my feet. real bad muscel spams .It hurt realbad.I Can even stand long enough to cook dinner cause it hurts real bad .i have to walk with a cain Somtimes 2cains.My boyfreind has to help me in and out of shower somtimes to set on toilet.I can't hold my grandbaby for a min. cause it even hurts . i can't stand or Sit but a few min at a time. I just feel worthless. Had a Lawyer out of Texas, but she was really from Phoenix,Az .The only thing she told me was because i am 49yrs almost 50 they rate me on levels. First thing she told me before seeing judge was that the judge was the worse judge in the state of Az his was going to deni me right off the bat.Told me i should just withdraw to get more evidince and it would take up to 2 more years. I dont know what to do.I cant get no help money wise. All i get is foodstamps.What am i suppose to do? Give up?

Re: Social Security Often Doesn’t Understand Pain (And What You Can Do About It)

TomaszStasiuk — Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:03:29 -0000

If there are no jobs which an individual can do, that usually means the case will be approved. Once exception is in cases of a drug abuse and/or alcoholism where SSA first decides if the conditions are disabling and then asks if drug abuse/alcoholism are material and contributory.

However, there's a difference between a getting a VE to say there are no jobs in response to one of *several* of the work limitations hypotheticals presented at a hearing and the judge "ruling" there are no jobs available. If the judge made a ruling, then there is already a decision and there is no question about what happens.

Since there are usually several hypotheticals presented to the vocational expert, eliminating all work in just one, doesn't necessarily mean anything. This is because the judge can still base the decision on one of the other hypotheticals.

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Emma — Sun, 04 Nov 2012 18:36:39 -0000

What happen when the judge rules that there's no jobs that u are able to work.

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Mccarty Debra — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:12:52 -0000

i have sleep apnea and herinated disc., High Blood pressure,and my knees are going out anyone have any suggestions?

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Mlwnjlawyer — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:18:09 -0000

What state are you in? Did you find help?

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Mlwnjlawyer — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:13:41 -0000

What state do you live in? Were you represented by an attorney? Was this appealed?

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Mlwnjlawyer — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:10:30 -0000

Great website. Very informative; interesting articles.

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TomaszStasiuk — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:53:56 -0000

If the case is denied, the number one issue is the appeal. Your lawyer can discuss the process with you and your options. New evidence may be submitted with the appeal. However, there are limitations. Your lawyer can walk your through them and help you decide whether the new evidence can be submitted.

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Iceedesire — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:45:11 -0000

yes i did talk to a lawyer he was there during the trial and when i talked to him after i got the letter he said that it seems that they didnt take in to account my back... even though they have xrays of my back getting progressively worse. he when he was allowed to talk to the "work placement person" he asked if a person that could not stand for more than 20 mins at times and could not sit for more than 30 min. and some times had to lay down for a bit to relieve the pain and the guy said no there was no job that would let a person do that ... but it was just like the judge didnt take my back problems in to account or my anger problems... i dont know if it is cause of the evidence that they got from 4-courners is the problem or the info they got from dr hiner did it.. but on the 26 i am meeting with a back specialist and i dont know i his findings will make a difference should i send in that info when i send it to review

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TomaszStasiuk — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 19:38:57 -0000

It sounds like there is a lot going on in your case. Have your tried working with a lawyer to help make your case more understandable to SSA?

Note: keep in mind that there are time limits on appealing any denials. These are discussed in detail in the decision notice.

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Iceedesire — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:53:33 -0000

all i can figure is that the dr that was there in the court room with out ever meeting me down played everything that was wrong he moved everything from moderate/ serious down to mild and my dr that i first started seeing who is now retired put in that I " over reacted" to the pain that is in my back my new dr that i just started seeing last month believes that i was told wrong as to what is the problem the dr that i first started seeing tried for 4 months to get a mri ok'd to see what was truly wrong but he was not sending in the right info to get it approved i think it is cause he didnt want to do anything in truth.. all he did was put me on perks and well they just made matters worse they made me sick and when i told him this he just ignored it and told me it was them or nothing... the mental doctors that i am forced to go to cause i am on state insurance dont believe in some of the things that even the ssi therapist found was wrong they call black outs due to anger where i dont remember what happens in that time disassociation and i know that is not what it is cause i act out when those times hit i even throw a spatula at a friend ... and well after i came back to me is the only way i can explain it i found part of the spatula but never found the rest... I just dont know what i have to do to make the courts believe what is going on when even my thearpist that i am made to go to dont treat what is wrong... I really dont know what went wrong in the case i am still trying to understand the letter that they sent to tell me the bad news.

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TomaszStasiuk — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 00:20:58 -0000

The options for a hearing denial are 1) appeal, 2) reapply, or 3) drop it. Reapplying isn't always possible if the case involves a date last insured.

However, the real question is what went wrong in the case? Was there insufficient evidence? Did doctors disagree? Was there non-compliance with medical treatment? Was drug abuse / alcoholism an issue? Maybe the evidence was good but the judge just wasn't buying it. If you don't know what went wrong, you don't really know what to fix next time.

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Iceedesire — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:36:49 -0000

hi My case was just denied by a judge i have no disk between my l4 -l5 verts in my back as well bi polor and personality disorder, i was told that there are two jobs that i can do now mind you i can not stand for very long and i cant sit that long as well with out mega pain there is times that i have to leave to go lay down on the bed to try and help the pain... I was told to try pain killers but they make me sick and puts me in more pain. I have tried perks and loratabs and its the same story with both... i dont know how to proceed from here... they said i can be a medical assembler, plastics and a semi - conductor bonder but i live out in the country side not in a city and they they selfs said that i was limited on driveing ... i really dont know how to fight this or where to go from here any help would be great

Thank you

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TomaszStasiuk — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:18:14 -0000

Hi Jeff,
Again, it sounds good. However, if I had a working crystal ball, I'd be at the racetrack! :)

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Jeffmtrimble — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:19:35 -0000

hi tom,all the disabilty examiner told me after his report is that hes gonna tell social security in his report that i can't work due to chronic pain.i hope that this time around i will win my case.what is your input on this.

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TomaszStasiuk — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:18:08 -0000

Sometimes, persistence makes all the difference. I will keep my fingers crossed.

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Jeffmtrimble — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:37:05 -0000

hi,the disabilty examiner was a pyschologist.i have been fighting this disablity case for 3 yrs.but filed again in march of 2010.

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TomaszStasiuk — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:13:41 -0000

Hi Jeff, It sounds good. However, a lot depends on what the consultative examiner puts in his/her report and what the other evidence says. You may want to take a look at the "consultative examination" articles: http://www.socialsecurityin...

Good luck!

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Jeffmtrimble — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:25:51 -0000

hi,i have a question i went to go see a disabilty examiner a few days ago requested by social security.and the examiner told me that i couldnt do any type of work due to chronic pain.does that mean i might have won my case.

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M Moore — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:17:25 -0000

"Social Security is very conservative in how it evaluates claims for disability. It looks for objective, measurable medical findings."

Yes. I'd like to add that not only is Pain often immeasurable (except on an individual level), the impact of working in most professional industries is enormous. How can a SSI case worker possibly understand the ramifications of someone being told by his or her employer that "no one can be sick all the time?" Day after day, a sick worker may be despondent, chronically late, inattentive and achy! We must remember that most jobs today fall under categories that are just by nature ill-suited for chronically ill people. The most common job descriptions I see:

• MUST THRIVE ON FAST PACED, PRESSURED ENVIRONMENT
MULTI-TASKER, HIGH-ENERGY PERSON

Get Real! Most ongoing illnesses take all there is out of a body - let alone having to actually Concentrate and Produce once you actually make it to work!

Michelle (CEO@chronic-SMILES.org)

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TomaszStasiuk — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:57:57 -0000

Pete, thank you for the kind words. You really made my day.

if you are in Colorado, give me a call and I'll be happy to discuss your case.

If you are in a different state call a lawyer close to you who specializes in Social Security cases. I believe you will get the best result if you can talk to someone in person. But that means finding a lawyer in your area.

I wish you the very best.

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Pete Freudenberger — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:32:46 -0000

Could you please shoot me an email of you check back on this stuff. I am in the exact predicament you are describing and feel like I am banging my head against a brick wall! I need help.
Please email me!
pete@ewillisgroup.com